JUDY WOODRUFF: But first: The years-long economic
crisis in Venezuela has the country in a steep
Violence rocked the nation earlier this year,
as President Nicolas Maduro pushed through
controversial political changes.
Maduro has come in for tough criticism from
President Trump and some Latin American leaders.
Through it all, rates of hunger and crime
In a rare interview, Maduro sat down with
“NewsHour” special correspondent Ryan Chilcote
at an energy summit today in Moscow.
RYAN CHILCOTE: President Trump has upped his
criticism of you and your administration since
the creation of the Constituent Assembly.
And I want to read you a quote from President
Trump that he made, a statement that he made
at the General Assembly.
He said: “The Venezuelan people are starving
and their country is collapsing.
Their democratic institutions are being destroyed.
The situation is completely unacceptable,
and we cannot stand by and watch.”
As far as I know, Mr. President, you haven’t
spoken with President Trump.
If you do, what will you say to him, and what
would you say now to the American people?
NICOLAS MADURO, Venezuelan President (through
translator): I would say to the U.S. people
the truth, that we have always done so.
Venezuela wants only one thing, respect.
The time of U.S. interference in the social
and political life of Latin America and the
Caribbean should be left behind.
Venezuela is the object of desire of ruling
circles in Washington for two reasons, our
riches, the riches of our country.
We have the largest proven reserves of oil
in the world.
We have growing reserves of natural gas.
We are number eight in terms of gas reserves
in the world.
And these reserves are growing, because, on
top of oil, we are also exploring some gas
Now Venezuela raised the flag of a new model
of waking up the peoples on our continent.
But they want to suppress this idea, this
It’s not just about Trump, because Trump is
reading his notes.
He doesn’t even know where Venezuela is on
He doesn’t even know where Puerto Rico is.
He didn’t know that.
He went the Puerto Rico, and he came there
during the tragedy and insulted them.
These are our brothers.
If you say to him Simon Bolivar, he thinks
that’s a rocker, a singer.
He doesn’t know what that is.
He repeats what the Pentagon writes for him.
My voice will never shut up, and my voice
will be loud always, with or without Trump.
Trump is rude.
He’s telling me he is going to deal with us
and end us.
But, even with Trump, Venezuela will keep
moving forward and we will fight for this
RYAN CHILCOTE: I would like to ask you about
President Trump has not ruled out military
action in Venezuela.
Do you take that threat seriously?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): This
is a forum on energy.
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): Of course
we can discuss other types of energy, spiritual
Let’s take a look at this.
The president of the largest, the most powerful
military power in the world has no right to
joke or not be serious.
The people of Venezuela are rebellious people.
We fight for our freedom.
And, of course, we have certain threats.
Venezuela has no weapons of mass destruction.
We have no nuclear weapons, no strategic weapons.
We have no significant armed forces and military
We are a modest country in this sense.
And all of a sudden, Trump threatens to attack
Venezuela by military force.
Of course all Latin American and Caribbean
countries oppose that.
And I think the U.S., despite anything, they
will have some minimum common sense.
RYAN CHILCOTE: Venezuela has one of the largest
collections of Russian arms in the region.
Amidst this threat of intervention, you’re
here in Moscow.
Will you be or are you asking President Putin
for military assistance and more weapons?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): As for
this Russian assistance, yes, we do have.
Russia supports us.
Thank goodness there is such a leader in the
world, a true leader, with a fast-growing
economy like Vladimir Putin.
He holds high the flag of peace, dignity.
RYAN CHILCOTE: You are asking for military
assistance, in a word?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): We have
What we have is enough.
But, at the same time, there are new arrangements
that are coming up, even if we don’t ask for
We are going to be given even more support
to defend our sovereignty and our defense
RYAN CHILCOTE: According to some statistics,
in 2016, around three-quarters of Venezuelans
lost an average of 19 pounds because there’s
not enough food.
What are you going to do to solve that problem?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): Venezuela
is still at an important position, in spite
of the crisis, in spite of the drop in the
oil price, in spite of the domestic trade
and economic war that some entrepreneurs fight
Venezuela is investing more than 60 percent
of its available resources in quality-based
education and health care; 65 percent of students
in the country receive free and good-quality
RYAN CHILCOTE: Are you saying that there is
no food crisis in Venezuela?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): I never
Who is saying this?
Venezuela is facing a global mass media campaign
They have been saying Venezuela has so many
problems, that he probably deserves an intervention.
And people said Saddam Hussein had weapons
of mass destruction.
Well, let’s do an intervention to get rid
of this WMD.
Let’s get the bad guy, the Caribbean Stalin,
as probably some people think.
Let’s get Mr. Maduro, and that would be the
end of problems.
This is a global campaign.
RYAN CHILCOTE: As you know, there are concerns
about the treatment of journalists.
Journalists have been attacked.
They have been kicked out of the country.
They have been allowed not — they have been
barred from coming in the country.
And there are concerns, as you know, about
political violence in Venezuela and the question
of whether there are going to be elections,
presidential elections in 2018.
Can you give us a guarantee that journalists
will be given access to Venezuela, that there
will be presidential elections in 2018, and
that demonstrations and protesters will be
treated with dignity and without violence?
NICOLAS MADURO (through translator): In April,
May, June, and July of this year, we had attacks
from the ultra-right movements.
No government in the world, I think, would
be tolerant of this type-situation and risky
So we had to live through very difficult times.
This also coincided with the coming to power
of the Trump administration and the right-wing
powers in the U.S.
And there were some spots of violence in Venezuela
across the country, and those spots of violence
were fueled by journalists and global mass
The opposition of Venezuela was claiming that
we need intervention to stop this violence.
Now, if we ever had even one case of a reporter
who wasn’t allowed to come and get accreditation
in the country, maybe this would have been
seen as a violation of our national legislature,
but this is probably because of the libel
and distortions that were spread by such mass
Now, from April to July, if we never had any
reports in the major newspapers of the world
about violence, maybe we wouldn’t have had
RYAN CHILCOTE: Mr. President, I suspect we
could go on all day.
This has been a very interesting conversation,
but I think we’re going to need to wrap it
I would like to thank you.
And please thank the president of Venezuela
for joining us today.
I thank you, and thank you on behalf of “PBS
It’s been interesting speaking with you, sir.
NICOLAS MADURO: Gracias.
Thank you very much.